FAQ

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We have three categories for our Warranty Program
1) Our 1 Year 10,000-mile Warranty is given to all assembled engines sold to a customer or shop. Details of this warranty may be found on our warranty tab, exclusions do apply.
2) Our 2 Year 18,000-mile Warranty is given to only approved shops that can do the install and tuning in house. Details of this warranty may be found on our warranty tab, exclusions do apply.
3) Our 3 Year 25,000-mile Warranty is given only to Kraken Motorsports. Details of this warranty may be found on our warranty tab, exclusions do apply.

If you live in the DFW area, you may visit Kraken Motorsports or Our Shop in Granbury TX to make a drop off/pick up. If you live far enough away from DFW to have the engine shipped, please ship to our shop; P2P Racing 3601 Acton Highway #28 Granbury TX 76049.

If you are unfamiliar with the removal and installation process of a Subaru block, we suggest that you use a certified shop and technician that has experience with Subarus perform the work. If you don’t feel confident removing/installing your motor, do not attempt. The worst thing you can do is run your motor out of oil because you missed a plug, or filled your oil with coolant because you crossed a rubber hose line.

There are two ways to ship economically. The first is to purchase your own box or to reuse a cardboard box that you have stored. Basic Dimensions for the short block will be 24”x24”x24” and you should have a thick walled cardboard as the weight will exceed 100lbs. If you can get your hands on a OEM Subaru box from your local dealership (they have many of these on hand) this is the best option as it’s free and has the plyboard protectors included.

The long blocks will need a sturdier box or pallet to ship to us. We have used a pallet and set the motor on a used tire with straps and wrapped the entire setup in plastic. This tends to work very well for freight shipping.

Turnaround time varies depending on our backlog of work. Typically we try our best to have motors back to you within 4 weeks for short blocks and 5 weeks for long blocks. We will discuss lead times with you before placing the order to make sure that your schedule can accommodate. As with anything, parts may become backlogged outside of our control. We do our best to stock as many parts in house as possible, but sometimes manufacturers with large mill runs take longer than anticipated and we have to wait for parts to come in. If this happens we typically find an alternative part and give you the option to run the alternative, or wait for the supplier to deliver the original part. Communication is key in this regard and we do our best to inform you of the changes to the schedule.

Ryan – Owner and Operator has a B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering Tech from the University of Houston. He has worked in the Oil and Gas industry as a R&D and Lead Product Engineer for pressure pumping equipment and subsea products for various large manufacturers. Ryan has recently devoted his full time to P2P and has successfully built motors that have competed and won in WTA (World Time Attack) in Australia, Super Lap Battle at COTA in the US and several rally events across North America. Ryan’s personal car is a 2015 sti that has been highly modified to compete in GTA (Global Time Attack) Street series for 2019/2020. Results will soon be posted for the 2020 season.

Oil – You will need enough oil for five total oil changes before you are free to run whatever oil you would like. Generally we require the following

• 0-100 miles, 5 quarts of break in oil and a new oil filter
• 100-500 miles, 5 quarts of break in oil and a new oil filter
• 500-1000 miles, 5 quarts of break in oil and a new oil filter
• 1000 miles – Go get a tune and switch to a high quality racing specific synthetic oil and a new filter for the dyno runs.
• After the tune – 3000 miles – switch to a conventional oil and a new filter
• 3000+ miles – you are free to run a high quality synthetic

Because of how we machine and hone the bores, we require an oil change early at 50-100 miles to remove the particles dropped by the rings breaking into the cylinder. These tiny particles leave “haze” in the oil. This is totally normal and in fact what you want to see in your new motor. This shows you are following the break in procedure correctly. To clarify our procedure, we hone the cylinders and then follow the honing process with a brushing process that eliminates much of the foreign material dropped into the oil. However, brushing the cylinder too much will result in a glazing of the cylinders and a reduced compression. We have found a happy medium with the rings we use.

Yes, this is normal for a fresh motor to have tiny particles in it from old gasket material, new gasket material and little pieces of metal flake from the sacrificial layer of bearing coating we use. We hot tank and clean the motor before assembly and bagging. The metal flake is usually from fresh cams wearing into the buckets or from a sacrificial layer of coating on the bearing surface. IF there are large pieces of bronze flake, call us immediately. There should be no bearing material in the oil.

During the break in process we require 5w-30 conventional oil with high zinc. Below are a list of oil that we prefer.

1. P2P Break In Oiling Package
2. Maxima Break in Oil
3. High Zinc Ester Based Dedicated Break in Oil

We prefer that you not use the OEM filters. Below is a list of recommended oil filters.

1. Denso
2. Tokyo Roki
3. WIX

Yes, be aware of everything your motor is telling you. Sounds that are abnormal are a sure sign something isn’t how it should be. We encourage you to reach out to us for questions, even trivial, as it helps us to educate ourselves and other customers with knowledge we may learn from you. There is a wealth of information found on our website. We encourage you to review our whitepapers as we release them, and to look through our FAQs. Our goal is to make quality products and to help create a community of enlightened enthusiasts. We appreciate your support

A good way to tell if you’re capable of removing and reinstalling the motor yourself is your gut. If you feel like you’re not up to it, then spend the money to have a qualified shop do the work. There are many pitfalls with installing these motors that can cost you much more than the 15-20 hours most shops quote. We encourage you to reach out to us for recommendations for your specific area.

A) Engine refreshes are typically used seasonally for race programs, or when an owner of a streetcar is looking to simply refresh an older build. Because of the nature of racing, and the extreme conditions the engine lives in, a refresh is recommended every 2 years or 100 hours of racing on P2P engines. This will obviously vary depending on each application, but for most club racers this is a good starting point when trying to budget your racing program. Most refreshes cost a flat 15 hours plus parts for short blocks and 24 hours plus parts for long blocks. Each engine is different and may require additional work depending on the need. We will not refresh an engine if it isn’t to our precise specifications. B) A good way to determine the “life of the engine” in terms of where P2P recommends a refresh is to follow this equation; LOE=50,000/(WHP*1.5). a. Example: Engine makes 300whp. LOE=50,000/(300*1.5)= 111 hours. b. Example: Engine makes 500whp. LOE=50,000/(500*1.5)= 67 hours. c. Example: Engine makes 1000whp. LOE=50,000/(1000*1.5)= 33 hours. C) A good example of the budgeting is to divide total expected life of the engine (LOE=111 hours) by the refresh hours (15 hours). If the shop rate (this may change in the future) is $125/hour, then the budget will show a $125 cost for every 7.4 hours of run time on track. That is three Drivers Education track weekends or 15-20 sessions for $125. D) Can this time vary depending on tuner, fuel used, oil change intervals, oil used, knock, ancillary component issues, etc.? YES!!!, many engines suffer premature failure due to mis- shifting, lack of proper maintenance, poor tuning for track conditions, etc. The above formula is used to determine a budget for a engine that will follow the proper procedure for maintenance and care.

3601 Acton Hwy #28, Granbury, TX 76049 We’re in the back of Madison Park